12
Jun
09

WHA Mods Versus Reading Comprehension

Interesting. I seem to have been banned from Warhammer Alliance. There was a thread basically where someone with a forum ID of “Roah” flamebaits the entire Order community with this trolling:

“So… Now bionic seems to not be playing much and not leading any order zergs for the last few months, How is it going over there?
Any great leaders stepped up to the plate?
What about all those bionic haters? any of them grown a pair and decided they can do a better job?

Cos from here it looks like your suffering from his adsence a fair bit.
Apart from the few ( like 2?) order allaince WBs we actualy fear/enjoy zerging it all feels abit headless chickeny to me.

So to cut it short, who is missing bionic?

I know i am cos winning all the time is getting boring.

/Discuss”

When I first saw it I thought to comment directly on that. Then I noticed that this anonymous person chose to accuse Order of not having the bottle to step up when he himself hides his in-game characters. So I pointed out the irony of telling those on the other side to grow a pair when he doesn’t put his in-game chars in his sig. It was a one line response. I can’t post a quote as it has been deleted. There was no name-calling, no direct assault, nothing. It was a fairly mild single sentence  showing the discrepancy between the posted content and the poster’s choice to remain hidden to the rest of the community he is posting in.

And received a ban.

“You have been banned for the following reason:
Provoking, trolling, personal attacks”

I’ve seen some heavy handed modding in my time but this is probably the worst modding I’ve seen to date. If they were looking for flamebaiting, provovcation and personal attacks perhaps they should have spent more time reading the original post in the thread.

Unimpressed at the WHA muppets. I’ve seen other bloggers complaining about them but this is my first experience of their facepalm-inducing behaviour.

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8 Responses to “WHA Mods Versus Reading Comprehension”


  1. June 12, 2009 at 14:22

    Roo,

    You do know you are destined for hell now and Mr Reaper is warming up his blade.

    I just tend to avoid the forums, because there is so my rubbish in there, that time versus reward, isn’t it.

  2. June 12, 2009 at 14:23

    bah, the last line should read,

    “… that time versus reward, isn’t worth it”.

  3. June 12, 2009 at 15:27

    Official WAR forums allow for a LOT more trash talking, and were originally intended for such. I’ve never been a big fan of WHA as they’ve always had some heavy handedness. While you’ll see a number of locked threads at the WAR forums, they’re rarely edited, and quite amusing. Praag even has a guild for Forum Troll Warriors or something of the sort.

  4. June 12, 2009 at 16:29

    That’s pretty crappy.

    It’s a shame the FH WAR community never really got particularly big. I hear the mods there are ace 😉 (cough cough)

  5. 5 Kaz
    June 12, 2009 at 17:33

    Remember the WHA mods are used to thousands of posts on their forums. Recently the number of posts has dried up. That means you have a load of mods with very little to do. Because they have nothing to do they start to get involved in stuff that in the past would not have even been on their radar.

    just look at Only-War, that guy got more and more heavy handed as fewer and fewer people posted. it got to the stage where pretty much anything posted was modded as either, troll, speculation or repetition. The problem was every post fell under those criteria and earned the poster a an IP ban. He ended up with only about 4 people posting on his site and they were all mods. He then closed shop. he went from running one of the biggest fan sites to nothing as he banned his entire community.

  6. June 12, 2009 at 23:47

    I kinda liked only-war’s “no nonsense” style of moderation but I didn’t really go there much after WAR’s release (I visited a few times before launch but was never a regular reader or poster).

    Though if you’ve not many posters and everything becomes “repetition” then is there a point in the forum if everyone’s posting the same things?

    Given the drop off in interest pre-launch to post-launch (the million-odd expecting the messiah of gaming 😉 vs the 300k that found a game they quite liked) and the official forums (which seem to have drawn in the majority of the US pop, not sure if the EU forums are quite so successful – lack of “ooh devs!” to draw people in – but they still have their fair share of the traffic) it’s not surprising only-war ran out of things for people to talk about (they were always a smaller community). Sounds like WHA is feeling the pinch too.

    Thankfully FH was never really about getting the numbers on there 😉 all that FH gets from more numbers is a bigger bandwidth bill for Deebs… wouldn’t have minded a few more posters and a bit more lively discussion mind you 🙂 but seems FH is going to be to the small, slightly spiky community of WAR playing (or just trolling) “individuals” that used to play daoc in europe.

  7. 7 Roo Stercogburn
    June 13, 2009 at 01:37

    FH has always been multi-game/platform/media, which forums focused on a specific game lack, giving FH the ability to survive the rise and fall of each game as it comes along. While a smaller community, it seems to hold together fairly well and has done so for a large number of years. People (such as myself) have dropped off there for long periods of time and come back to find it still there, with familiar virtual faces bantering away.

    I notice there has been some response on the Norn community to some of the bans, the stance taken largely depending on if you look at the behaviour of the WHA moderators or trollish glee in having some fun.

    More generally, if you stifle the communcation, people will just go elsewhere to do it. Gaming forums serve the gaming community, not the other way around. There are wild inconsistencies in what the WHA mods seem to allow through, easily seen by reading any of a number of threads there, even in the last few days.

    Ultimately the Moderator behaviour there will be self defeating and if not careful they will reach the nirvana of never having to worry about the content of forum posts.

  8. 8 Roo Stercogburn
    June 19, 2009 at 16:02

    The ban is lifted, here is the content of the forum message that was sent to me. Which Ironically I could not read…because I was banned 😀

    “Ironic really talking about growing a pair and yet not putting your own characters in your sig.”

    The message from the forum mod reads as follows:

    “Dear Roo Stercogburn,

    You have received an infraction at Warhammer Forums.

    Reason: Forum Rules Violation (Major – 8 Points)
    ——-
    Trash talk is okay on Server forums, but this is within the grey area of “personal attacks”, which isn’t okay. Please refrain from it in the future.

    -No Disrespectful Posts (8 points) – Insults, disparaging remarks, “flaming”, or anything else that fails to have respect for any one person or thing posted on the forum is not allowed.

    -No Posting With Provoking Intent (8 points) – Otherwise known as “trolling”, this involves posts clearly designed to elicit an unproductive response.

    Replies to this moderation PM will not be received, delivered, or otherwise read. If you have an issue with this moderation and wish to appeal it, please contact Nattfodd. If you have thoughts regarding our policies, please scroll to the bottom of the page and use the Contact Us link to send feedback to the staff.”


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